Monday, March 16, 2009


The title of the novel Of Mice and Men comes from a peom by the Scottish poet Robert Burns entitled "To a Mouse."

The best laid schemes o'mice and men
Gang aft agley [often go wrong]
And leave us nought but grief and pain
For promised joy!

How does the title of this novel relate to the poem? Post a response of 200 words minimum. DUE: Wednesday, 3/18

14 comments:

MackenzieF said...

The best laid schemes o' mice and men gang aft agley [often go wrong] and leave us nought but grief and pain for promised joy! Is a poem written by Robert Burn. This poem is related to the title of John Steinbeck's novella, "Of Mice and Men." In this poem, when I see the words "often go wrong" I think of Lennie and all of the mistakes he made throughout the book. Also, the last line of the poem, "and leave us nought but grief and pain for promised joy!" I reflect on the ending of the novella, when George shoots Lennie and their dream of getting their own house would not be accomplished. When George makes the heart-wrenching decision to end Lennie's life, he is filled with grief, pain, and sorrow as he continues his life without his friend, and without hope for getting their own land. Lastly, a theme from this poem is that the most carefully prepared plans can go wrong unexpectedly, in the novella, George and Lennie have their dream to buy a house and they had the money, wrote a letter to the owners who were selling the house, and calculated how many more days they needed to work, but ultimately, ended up in Lennie’s death, and the dream never to be accomplished.

steven s9 said...

The best laid schemes o' mice and men gang aft agley [often go wrong] and leave us nought but grief and pain for promised joy! Is a poem written by Robert Burn. This poem is related to the title of John Steinbeck's novella, "Of Mice and Men." Well I think that this poem relates to the novella when it says often go wrong because in the book George and lennie have a plan and every time they get a job to try and put that plan in motion it stops because lennie somehow makes it go wrong. When Lennie goes wrong it brings grief and pain to George because then he has to find new jobs and start life over with Lennie over and over again. The poem "To a Mouse" was the frame in which John Steinbeck built his book around.

Anonymous said...

The best laid schemes o' mice and men gang aft agley [often go wrong] and leave us nought but greif and pain for promised joy! Is a poem written by Robert Burn. This poem is related to the title of John Steinbeck's novella, " Of Mice and Men. " I think that this poem relates to the novel when I see " The best laid schemes o' mice and men gang aft agley " which can be interpreted as " The best plans often go wrong. " because George and Lenny always come up with a new scheme and then Lenny ends up messing it up, George ended up having to kill Lenny even though it put him through pain and greif but it was the only way for him to get a new job and to proceed with his life. I think that the novel is based on the poem.

Anonymous said...

“The best laid schemes o'mice and men
Gang aft agley [often go wrong]
And leave us nought but grief and pain
For promised joy!”
This is a poem called “To a Mouse” written by, Robert Burns. This poem is relatable to the novel Of Mice and Men by, John Steinbeck. In this poem they say “the best laid schemes...” This reminds me of George and Lennie's hopes and dreams of having their own little farm to themselves. They had a whole scheme for the future and everything planned out. Although when Lennie got in trouble they were farther and farther away from getting to their dream. The last line of the poem “leave us nought but grief and pain” is like when George had to shoot Lennie. Lennie was in too much trouble and George realized he would just get into more trouble even if they fled to another town. At this point George was left with pain and grief after losing his best friend. Now George would most likely not be able to continue the dream that him and Lennie had. He would not have enough income coming in, to afford the little place they were planning to move into. The message in this novel and poem is that some things you plan don't always go through nicely. Sometimes you are left with less than you had before you even started.

JesseL8 said...

The title Of Mice and Men is related to the poem “To a Mouse” because of the similarities between the themes of the novel and the poem. The poem begins by stating “The best laid schemes o’mice and men”, which is just like the plan George and Lennie had. The schemes often go wrong in the poem just as it had in the novel. The grief and pain is similar to the end of the novel when George shoots Lennie. George and Lennie were best friends that always stuck together. Unfortunately Lennie got himself in so much trouble there was nothing left to do but have George shoot him, rather than having him die in a more gruesome manner. George had many reasons for killing Lennie which ended probably being beneficial to both Lennie and George, making it clear why even though there is grief and pain, there is still promised joy. Lennie would not have to suffer a pain worse than an unprepared for bullet to the back of the head, and George would no longer have to suffer the pain of having Lennie drag him down. George could finally receive a full pay and would be able to take care of himself rather than Lennie as well. The fact that John Steinbeck chose this poem as a source for his novel makes sense.

tyler costello said...

"the best laid schemes o'mice and men gang aft agley [often go wrong] and leave us nought but grief and pain for promised joy!" this qoute come's from the poet Robert Burns. this relates to the title of the novella of mice and men. the qoute relates to the title because when it say's often make's mistakes that can be interpreted as when lennie gets in trouble all of the time. like when Lennie "raped" thats girls in weed, and when he actually did kill Curley's wife in the barn but not as a cold blooded killer. this cause much grief for many people. it cause grief for George, Lennie and Candy. It cause grief for George because he knew that his dream could never become true with or without lennie and it lead to him shooting his own friend. This caused lennie grief because he felt guilty because he never succeded he always failed and got yelled at by George. Candy didn't have much grief compared to George and lennie but he still was sad because his hope is lost because lennie had died so they couldn't only have 1 able working person. the joy that was promised to them had been stricken away when lennie had died.

Anonymous said...

The best laid schemes o'mice and men
Gang aft agley [often go wrong]
And leave us nought but grief and pain
For promised joy!

What I see as the major connection between the poem and the novella is the words grief and pain. All throughout the novella and before it Lennie and George are kept being show grief and sorrow while trying to reach the promised joy of they’re farm. In the end the dream goes amuck and causes George the only friend who stuck with Lennie, the only option available to him… the killing of Lennie. Now Lennie was George’s one true friend and when he died Georges heart was filled with much pain for as soon as Lennie hits the ground he knows that the dream land will not come to him. When George describes the incident in Weed the pain is that a simpleton like Lennie is always misunderstood and thought to be the bad guy of the bout. The final incident was the death of the puppy followed by the death of Curly’s Wife. It was like a chain reaction starting from the death of the puppy to the death of Curly’s wife that caused the problem that occurred between the two of them. They’re plan was so well planned that when a little unexpected problem happened the joy of it just crashed around them. The final instant is that of Curly’s broken hand. This brawl foreshadows an unseen conflict in the future between the two of them. Curly’s hand cause him much pain and the total annihilation of his honor as a fighter because a man who used just one hand to break Curly’s hand right off. This causes turmoil inside his body to the point of when the hunt for Lennie takes place. This is why the novel is based on the poem.

RobbyF said...

The title of this poem relates to the novel because in the poem it says two major words, grief and pain. Grief and pain are words that describe the relationship between George and Lennie. Grief is a feeling one has when they do something wrong and feel emotionally unstable or when one dies and they can not cope with the pain. One example of grief in the novel is when Lennie accidentally kills the puppy. He doesn't mean to do this terrible act and then he feels awful for killing the puppy. Another example of grief is when George has to kill Lennie. George does not want to do this, but it is something that he has to do. It's a mandatory action that he is responsible for. One example of pain is when Lennie is strangling Curley's wife. When you read that excerpt from the novel, the reader can feel the pain of Curley's wife. Curley's wife is being strangled and there is nothing that she can do because Lennie is so strong and in such a panic. All Lennie knows what to do is just hold on and wait for George to tell him what to do next. Pain and grief are emotional feelings that people are always going to feel, but sometimes, you just have to look ahead and pray for the best.

johnh07 said...

I think that John Steinbeck made the title of this book Of Mice and Men because of the things that happen to Lennie and George. In the poem one of the lines say “The best laid schemes o'mice and men Gang aft agley [often go wrong]”
In the story Of Mice and Men Lennie often causes trouble for George and himself. For example he makes the worst possible mistake he could of by killing Curley’s wife by accident. He has a need to touch soft things due to his disability. “I like to pet nice things with my fingers, sof’ things.” So when she starts to scream to tell him to stop he gets frightened and doesn’t want George to hear because then he thinks George won’t let him tend the rabbits. “Oh please don’t do none of that he begged.” While he was trying to get her to stop screaming he was holding her so tightly and him being so strong he accidentally broke her neck and killed her. So this proves that things always go wrong for George and Lennie and therefore this is why I think John Steinbeck made the title of this book Of Mice and Men.
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AnnaB said...

The best laid schemes o' mice and men gang aft agley [often go wrong] and leave us nought but grief and pain for promised joy! Is a poem written by Robert Burn. This poem is related to the title of John Steinbeck's novella, "Of Mice and Men." In the novella it says “often go wrong” I think of everything that Lennie did such as the incident in weed, the puppy and Curly’s wife. And then when it says “leave us nothing but grief and pain for promised joy!” I think about two parts of the novella. The first one is about candy’s dog and how it was painful for candy to let Carolsin to shoot his dog but also grief that he didn’t do it but let a stranger shoot him. And the other one I think of is at the end about Gorge shooting Lennie. It was painful for him to but he would also have grief if he let Curly find him and beat him up until he is dead. Also at the end it says “for promised joy” and that makes me think of Gorge and Lennie’s dream of getting the land and living on it just the three of them, Gorge, Lennie and candy.

Anonymous said...

"The best laid schemes o'mice and men
Gang aft agley [often go wrong]
And leave us nought but grief and pain
For promised joy!" Is a poem called "To a Mouse" by Robert Burns. This poem relates to Of Mice and Men because the best laid schemes o' mice and men gang aft agley [often go wrong] is basically what occurs to Lennie and George durring the whole novella. It mainly occurs when they have a plan to move off to a cabin and have they're own crops and animals. They decide to allow a fellow worker Candy to come with them and he offers to pay more then half of the costs and it would only be a few months more until they had enough to buy all they needed. Sure enough Lennie got very angry at Curleys wife, who was another worker who did not like Lennie, he told Curley's wife to stop screaming and she wouldn't so out of anger and fear he snapped her neck saying he wont be able to tend the rabbits if George finds out. This is when things started to go wrong because everyone knew that Lennie had done it. George being Lennies good friend thought that he should put Lennie out of his missery. " And leave us nought but grief and pain for promised joy!" Relates to when George has to shoot Lennie who was his long time friend but he realized Lennie was to dangerous around others. This shows that they're best laid schemes often go wrong and leave them nothing but grief and pain which is what the poem "To a Mouse" is all about.

mikepri said...

"The best laid schemes o'mice and men Gang aft agley [often go wrong]
And leave us nought but grief and pain For promised joy!" Is a poem written by Robert Burns. This poem is simular to the Novel, "Of Mice and Men" because things go wrong with Lennie and George the entire novel. The book starts off with Lennie assaulting (not really) a woman. This resulting in Lennie and George having to run away from a lynch mob. Lennie is rough and unaware of his own strength. Lennie kills a puppy that he gets by petting it too hard. George and Lennie dream of better days where they can just sit back and relax on their own farm. The worst thing Lennie does is at the end of the novel he kills Curlys wife because he wants her to stop screaming and he puts his hands over her mouth and eventually snaps her kneck. Georges plans to live a happy life "often go wrong" because Lennie ends up ruining them. In the end, George shoots Lennie so that he doesn't get caught and tortured by the lynch mob. The ending leaves George in grief and pain. George promised Lennie a life of joy but he never got to see it.

Anonymous said...

This poem relates to the novella Of Mice and Men because whatever George and Lennie planned, it was never going to happen. In the poem, it says that the best laid schemes always go wrong. This is exactly what happens with George and Lennie. They plan everything out, what they are going to buy, where their land is, and how much it would cost them. They even calculated how long it would take them to save up their money. They were talking about how they would get rabbits, a little stove, and how their house would not be too big or too small. They were even saying how when somebody would come over, they could stay the night with them because they would have an extra bed for guests. Even Candy got involved with this plan and put forward most of his money from when he lost his hand. George, Lennie, and Candy planned everything out so well, yet it backfired and they couldn’t go forward with it. The poem and this novella basically say that you should not plan out anything too much, or take too much time when planning it. Lennie and George had a great dream that they planned out over the years, but it ended up to be nothing when Lennie dies and George is left alone at long last.

deegs1234 said...

“The best laid schemes o'mice and men
Gang aft agley [often go wrong]
And leave us nought but grief and pain
For promised joy!” This poem relates to the book Of Mice and Men. In the book George and Lennie have a dream to have their own land with a house and some land to grow food and have dogs and cats and lennie wanted to have rabbits to take care of. On rainy days they would stay in they wouldn’t go out and work they would just stay in by the fire. Candy wanted to join in with the patch of land and he had the money to pay for it. But as the poem says dreams often don’t happen. As well as in the book George and Lennie’s dream doesn’t work out because lennie killed curly wife and George had to kill Lennie so that the men wouldn’t torture and kill him. So there dream had disappeared.